The Art of Eating Well What's the difference between just eating and eating well? Chad Buck, Ph.D., Work-Life Connections EAP psychologist, discusses the difference between emotional eating and eating "well."

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Janet McCutchen: Welcome to this edition of the Vanderbilt University Health and Wellness Wellcast. I am Janet McCutchen with Work/Life Connections. Today, I have the pleasure of meeting with Chad Buck, my friend and colleague here at Work/Life Connections-EAP. Chad, we know that many people struggle to eat well which by its very nature that phrase is different from using the word diet, eating well, first of all, but we often engage in our own emotional hunger games when it comes to food, so I am going to ask you if you would please to talk a little bit about the difference between eating well and dieting, and then, let’s look at some strategies to improve eating habits. Could you make that distinction for us first of all? Dr. Chad Buck: With physical hunger, you have it kind of come on gradually. It is sort of a natural feeling and there is nothing specific that you necessarily have to have in order to fulfill that hunger. With emotional hunger, it comes on really quickly and it is usually after something emotional has happened like you might be scared, upset, or disappointed, and then, you usually have a very specific type of thing that you want to have like you want pizza, you want ice-cream, you want chips. Janet McCutchen: Oh, yes, got it. I think we have all been there. Dr. Chad Buck: And with physical hunger, if you eat, you are usually satisfied and then you are done. With emotional, you will eat beyond that feeling of fullness. Most people sometimes eat to the point where they feel sick, and usually, if you are physically hungry and you eat something, you are not going to feel guilty because it had a reasonable explanation for why you are hungry, but with emotional eating, usually there is a lot of guilt and shame associated with it and often people will hide the fact that they are eating those foods. Janet McCutchen: Talk a little bit then about distinction between dieting and eating well because when you just made that define what you just did a moment ago it sounds like when we are focused on dieting that tends to be involved with the guilt that we feel either by our appearance or how much we eat or may be both whereas eating well is really a different approach to food. Is not it? Dr. Chad Buck: Absolutely, dieting is usually about deprivation or restricting something or cutting out whole food groups on those. You will see people who will only eat meat and have no carbs and what they do not understand is that in eating well you need carbs, you need to have different types of protein. It does not have to be animal-based protein, but you need protein. It is all about balance and that is more eating well. Dieting is when you typically have an emotional connection to it and your worth is tied up in your accomplishment and not so much about trying to be healthier, taking care of your body, making sure you have fuel, and making sure that everything is operating well. Janet McCutchen: Yes. That is an excellent definition, and we know that when we are eating well and focusing on being healthy that affects our psychological wellbeing, of course our mental health. So, when we want to improve those eating habits, when we want to focus on eating well, what are some of the hunger games we engage in around that? Dr. Chad Buck: It is sort of in line with the dieting that I was talking about earlier. The idea is that you have to deprive yourself for the most part, and so, you play this game with yourself where it is sort of like well I will not eat this meal because later in the day I am going to have this food which somehow in our heads is going to justify eating that food later in the day. When that food later in the day may have been fine, but what you set yourself up for is the game of I am not going to eat this, you are starving by the end of the day, and you overeat the other thing that you are having. Janet McCutchen: Makes sense. Dr. Chad Buck: So, you are playing these games with yourself trying to bargain or make it sort of tradeoff and what you are really doing is setting yourself up actually to change up your metabolism to be probably honestly grumpy, frustrated, and also just to not ever be satisfied. Janet McCutchen: That makes perfect sense. So, by playing those games, we really are doing ourselves a disservice. Dr. Chad Buck: Absolutely. Janet McCutchen: So, what are some of the strategies we can implement in order to eat well? Dr. Chad Buck: Well, one part is to try to manage your stress. That is easier said than done, but trying to just recognize that stress does affect how you eat. If you are sad, you are more likely to want ice-cream or cake. I mean that is just sort of how we are built. So, you want to sort of be able to be more mindful and kind of check on your status before you are about to eat something. So, let’s say, it has been a stressful day and may not be the time to try to run through the grocery store and make selections, but you have to go to the grocery store because you have to have meals for the evening, so what you might do would be to do deep breathing exercise in the car before you go into the grocery store. So, what I usually tell people is to inhale through your nose for a count of 5, hold it for a count of 5, and then exhale through your mouth for a count of 5 and then do that five times. The better you are at in terms of your breathing, the more likely you are going to be calm and the calmer you are and the more centered you are, you are not going to make emotionally based choices in the grocery store. Janet McCutchen: Okay, it makes perfect sense. What about another strategy or two? Dr. Chad Buck: Another is to sort of take an inventory of on a scale of 1 to 10 am I physically hungry and how physically hungry am I with 10 being extremely hungry physically or to look at emotional hunger on a scale of 1 to 10. If you are more emotionally hungry in terms of I just want this I have to have it, then you are physically hungry. That is your key that you might need to do what is called delay, distract, and decide. So, with delay, you delay, so you are not going to eat the food right at that moment. You might focus on a book that you are reading or listen to a song on the radio. It is like 3 to 4 minutes and then when you are done decide what you want to do, do you want to still eat the food or do you want to maybe do some other activity. It can help you control that desire to go and grab the chips or grab things that are not as healthy for you. Janet McCutchen: If anyone listening would like any further information or more support, we are always available. 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